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Ramona C. Truta's avatar

A few weeks ago I wrote a little blurb — a very compressed conclusion of a long thought process. Recently, I read a big expansion on my conclusion. This is not the first time this happened.

I don’t dismiss the possibility that 2 different people reach the same conclusion. It’s done so expertly, trying to prove it would be a ‘witch hunt’.

Ultimately, when something is shared public, it’s dated; that is always the evidence of who said it first.

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

I usually read something and can immediately recognize the sentences I labored over or ideas I threaded through. Esp when it’s verbatim. And the evidence is explicit. But with the volume of content now produced, the lines are getting blurry

Alto Predict's avatar

"Intellectual squatter" - I know a few of these!

Zane Hall's avatar

A weighty essay here. Weirdly, even MGs responses are all AI-written.

As a writer, this terrifies me. Not that I think anyone would want to steal any of my ideas, but that I might accidentally steal from someone else. A simple rule helps me: never write with AI. Never. Never paste any text from the internet (or any AI tool) into my writing. Doesn't solve the problem but works as a starting guardrail. Another guardrail: always include attribution as an editing pass.

The nuance in this piece is really helpful, thanks!

ZH

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

It is heavy and was a lot to write. But so much of this is a daily part of librarianship. Made me realize that those core principles are really missing from our day-to-day lives. I do believe many folks really don’t know or understand that there’s a pretty high chance of plagiarism if copying and pasting articles into an LLM and asking it to write an essay.

Zane Hall's avatar

It's turning everyone into robots, and they love it.

ZH

Andrew J Turner's avatar

Wow 😮 Jessica … how are you feeling now after writing ✍️ this article

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

How’d you feel reading it?

Andrew J Turner's avatar

It was very comprehensive but I felt strange mixed emotions of you finding out then the interactions … it seems this is today and it’s only going to be more challenging

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

Feeling okay. My article that was plagiarized was not paywalled and now it is which is sad.

Andrew J Turner's avatar

Ok understand

Tom Parish's avatar

Nicely done especially given the difficult circumstances. And wow, I sure learned a lot about plagiarism. Love the methodical approach you've taken to this situation. Says a lot about your integrity.

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

Thank you, Tom. The landscape is shifting with AI.

Tom Parish's avatar

Yes, as are we.

Gamster's avatar

Please Jessica they don’t need an additional ‘how to’. They sadly do fine on their own 😡

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

Yes they are very capable 🖤

Joanna Miller's avatar

I will never hear the words "As someone who has been thinking about this for awhile..." (which I absolutely have heard before) the same way again. The fraudsters are afoot, right and left!!

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

Everywhere, all at once 😉

Irina Malkova's avatar

This makes me so mad.

How do we mobilize to f.. the plagiary?

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

This as a service? 😳 and thank you!

My writer friends (fiction and a few non-fiction) won’t publish on these platforms because of theft and hassle.

Irina Malkova's avatar

Do you already have identification automated? You always find these thieves real fast somehow!

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

And I look for composition—- focus on pattern matching

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

I read a lot of pieces and my sentences that I labor over stand out. I run the piece and my piece through AI and generate a sentence by sentence phrase by phrase analysis and generate a report. Then I use a plagiarizer checker to make sure. Sometimes readers notify me. But I always check it in at least two different places or flows

Jessica Talisman, MLS's avatar

Publishing a log? Or is that too much of a witch trial? Build a tool, give access?

Irina Malkova's avatar

I knew next to nothing about copyright protection and went to go get educated.

It sounds like the easiest way is to automate the identification of plagiarism and subsequent filing of DMCA notices to the platform (to remove content) and to Google (to remove from search index). This should generally result in plagiarism removed within hours. It gets more complicated if the thief takes action to fight, but I imagine most won’t.

I imagine you know all this already!

Christine Haskell, Ph.D.'s avatar

This happened to me with my research papers. I saw a few LinkedIn posts (from people I knew) mimic their ideas, and when I spoke with them, they became very defensive. I had not even accused them (just said how similar they looked, and attribution would be nice if they took their ideas further). But some of the wording and cadence were obvious. They never spoke to me again, which is ok; they still can't come up with new ideas on their own....